Wineskin DAY - coming soon


Time for Wineskins again, soon!


This one's going to be a one-day-only affair.


If you're not registered, you'll miss out!



The topic is Leadership.


Mark will be sharing in several sessions throughout the day, with times for discussion and sharing as well.

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Theology for Life - Night 4

Mark opened with a reading from Proverbs 30, which (among other things) highlights the mystery and wonder of creation. He talked about seeing the creation with new eyes, especially with the Spirit now given to God's people after Pentecost.

He reviewed the first three nights and dropped in this fantastic and extremely quotable phrase about Resurrection v. 'immortality':
"Immortality has no respect for physicality. Resurrection is the redemption of physicality."
He also added a great addition to the story of him and Luke, and how he got to the point in his mountain bike racing where he was able to 'not hold back'... The key moment was when Mark saw Luke off at the top of the mount, and instead of Luke's usual words - 'See you at the bottom', he smiled and said... 'Watch this.' Also he shared how Luke's attitude has matured to the point where he now starts every race with the brief thought/prayer, 'Lord, thank You for this gift.' Brilliant.

He further reviewed the previous weeks, picking up on these points:

-Double Knowledge <> Trinity <> Image of God
-One and Many, Universal and Particular
-Thought: 'Knowing' in the Trinity (Father knows himself more by knowing the Son, and so on...)
-You in the particularity of your brilliance and stories
-Your whole life reveals God: (Text, Soul & Culture)

Just before the break, Mark showed some paintings from Marcia Hinds (view her work here), and talked about how God takes us on our 'journey' and uses the story of our own lives. He gave these points:

-Transformation >> towards the original intent
-Modelled >> In the life Jesus promised and the Spirit gifted
-Modelled >> In a community that knows this life
-AND... For the sheer wonder of LIFE!!!

After the break, before surveying various realms of life, Mark shared a phrase he picked up in his travels:
"Know the Gospel. Know the Culture. Translate Well."
He then moved on to these categories of human experience...

Art
-we sense that everything 'speaks'
-we sense how things are perspectives on other things
-we seek beauty at the core of our lives, not at the fringes

Knowledge
-we feel rationalism brutalising us
-we feel relativism leaving us empty
-we know truly & sufficiently, not exhaustively
-we sense the brilliance of love

Music
-we cherish the order & discipline that make freedom possible
-we feel tension and resolution
-we were born to improvise

Theatre
-we are learning how to read the script(ure) well
-we are learning how to bring a scrip(ure) to life
-we are learning the ars of 'finishing the play' (Tom Wright)

Community
-we long for it
-we find it in unlikely places
-we find ourselves changed in it
-we sense the implications of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness and self-control

(Mark briefly noted that most converstations about social justice issues lack a clear anthropology.)

Architecture
-we respect what does more than keep us dry and warm
-we judge by what we want to be
-we seek promises of happiness

Sport
-we exult in the thrill of the game
-we rejoice in RISK
-we know the dignity of playing hard
-we know some things only come by pushing as hard as we can

Conversation
-we sit with uncertainty
-we become open to the messiness that brings clarity and makes things happen
-we know meaning in the smallest delights

Culture
-we must honour what is different (diversity)
-we must honour what is common (unity)

Work
-we honour gain that comes from honest toil
-we rejoice to accomplish
-we honour initiative
-we delight in making and doing what has not been done

Environment
-we are stilled
-we open to complexity wrapped in beauty
-we feel that wondrous interconnectedness we call 'system'
-we need our calling to stewardship made vivid

Friendship
-we know some things just can't be said
-we sense the depth in silence
-we honour small things
-we remind ourselves of who we are and what our lives mean

Intimacy
-we long to be known as we are known
-we long to love as one who is distinct but who chooses to embrace
-we were made for desire and delight

Leadership
-we know it is a really simply human thing
-we sense it's about wisdom, not fads
-we grasp the way the Gospel reframes it

Aging
-we feel the seasons
-we honour the seasons
-we honour innocence AND experience
-we must know how to finish well

Suffering
-we feel the tragedy of sin and the promise of grace
-we see the brilliance of hope
-we sense what words can never convey
-we learn not to fake our answers

Then Mark shared his poem 'This God' with us. The question of 'was Jesus God?' is answered by Tom Wright as '...it depends on which God you mean.' Mark has attempted to answer the question backwards - 'What kind of God would become Jesus?'

(an 'un-edited' version I have from another conference/retreat...)

This God
This God could put on eyebrows and kneecaps, tear ducts and saliva glands.
This God could be born under the tyrants Augustus and Herod.

This God could accept the smells of shepherds, and the extravagancies of political emissaries.

This God could start life a vulnerable hunted child born into scandal.

This God could grow up under foreign domination and among terrorists and outcasts.

This God could sit in the street playing marbles.

This God could wear with pride the calloused splintered hands of an honest workman building the houses and fixing the furniture of half-castes, outcasts and bigots.

This God could ask his cousin to baptise him along with the rest of the crowd.

This God could make the best vintage Pinot Noir or Cabernet Sauvignon even when the guests were too drunk to know the difference.

This God could befriend a bloke in a tree with small man syndrome.

This God could enjoy a prostitute washing his feet, giving her his full and undivided attention, and ignoring the eye-rolling of lawyers and theologians.

This God could spend a whole night making a whip to crack over the backs of con artists who rip-off the poor.

This God could wrap the greatest truths in the simplest stories, and put a sting in the tail of every yarn.

This God could let himself hang on a tree, nails tearing at his sinews, blood, faeces and urine running down his legs.

This God could invite women to be the first to know that he was back.

This God could delay his own glorious homecoming long enough for a bite of breakfast on the beach and a yarn with an old mate to let him know there were no hard feelings and to pass on his mantle.

This God could take his own story and give it the most surprising ending.


This God, this God, is worth knowing.

This God could reach into the crevices of my soul to bring to life the longings I smother so pathetically and recklessly with shame and excuses.
This God could raise me up to life with him.
This God could give me every blessing he could give himself.
This God could draw me out of my petty self-interest without a hint of a ‘tut-tut’, a frown, or a patronising smile.
This God could be more infuriating and fascinating and gobsmacking than any god I could ever make up.
This God could love my obsessiveness and overlook my forgetfulness.
This God could laugh and cry with me, and come play with me.
This God could make me his glory.
This God could love me.
This God could make my heart good.
This God could trust me.
This God could never be safe, but always be good.

This God, this God, is worth knowing.

This God I want to know.
This God I know in the face and Spirit of Jesus.

by Mark Strom

And he closed with good 'ol Bob Dylan 'Forever Young'

Comments with your thoughts, stories, wisdom, etc.!!!

Theology for Life - Night 3

Last night was simply great.

In the first half, Mark said that he basically was trying to start a conversation. And, in order to shift that conversation, you have to shift people's perspectives. The perspective he wishes to 'shift' is seen in this new summary phrase that he offerred:

...More broadly Human because of the Gospel, than more narrowly Christian because of Tradition...

Among several other things, he talked about the 'works of the flesh' and the 'fruit of the Spirit' being 'non-religious', which of course, re-implies the above summary phrase and provides one example of how Mark's perspective plays out in Scripture.

Also, much time was given to the subject of gifting. Starting with another review of William Wilberforce, and ending the first half with a story of a school teacher, Mark demonstrated the need for us (humans gloriously made - and Gifted - in the image of God) to know, embrace and make us of our giftings!

The 2nd half consisted of the touching and truly inspiring story of Mark's son, Luke (which I will not dare try to summarise as it would not do justice to the atmosphere which the telling of it created in the room...).

I appreciated Mark's closing. There is no question about the need to hold the creator/creation distinction in it's proper place ('When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, which You have ordained, what is man that You take thought of him...? Psalm 8:3-4 NASB), but we must also know the value, dignity - and yes, even glory with which we have been made ("...Yet You have made him a little lower than God, And You crown him with glory and majesty! Psalm 8:5 NASB).

Please do share your thoughts!

Theology for Life - Night 2

Night two saw Mark continuing in the theme of 'the big picture', but (especially in the 2nd half of the lecture) also making more practical suggestions of how this might play out in life.

Here are some highlights:

(the 'BIG' ideas)
Life >> Unity and Diversity
-very influential answer to this: Plato - dualism (matter doesn't 'matter' - only ideas)
-Bible has a different starting point & framework (namely, that creation is GOOD)
-early Christian thinkers reacted to dualism, but slowly adopted parts of it
-Augustine: God is single, unitary, unchanging, immovable, etc.
-(which led to this assumption) Unity of God >> truth singular /certain people hold keys to truth

17th and 18th century (ideological developments)
-huge philosophical reaction to this - the Enlightenment
-Essence of humanity
-particular people/things lost in universal ideas
-crtiteria and source of truth located in us
-Time = limitation; imitate eternity >> I.R. & management (control)
-Science = saviour & angel of death
-Art >> elite or >> meaningless (nothing = art; everything = art)
-Ethics stuck between rights & responsibilities

Value of a person
1. Individual disappears into faceless 'universal principles'
2. Individual lost in conformity to regimes (marxicism)
3. Individual pumped to 'be an individual' while lost in faceless fashions

Scriptures on Father, Son & Spirit (Trinity)
-Let 'us' make...
-In the beginning was the Word...
- I and the Father are One...
-He who has seen me has seen the Father...
-No one knows... only the Father... not even the Son...
-I will send the Spirit...
-The Lord is the Spirit...
-In Him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form...

Father, Son, Spirit >> Creation
-In Him we live, move and have our being...
-Summing up all things in Christ...
-filled to all the fullness of God...
-in Him all things were created and hold together...
-to reconcile all things to himself...
-creation was subjected to futility...

Trinity
-analogy
-three close friends; identities SO bound up in relatedness, that they can't tell their OWN story without telling the others two friends' stories... (like that with God, but much further!)
-the 3 persons don't exist first and THEN relate, but their existence IS their relationship!
-God is as much 3 as He is 1

Man & Woman (image of God)
-humans find their true being in communion with others
-Gen. 1:26-28
-true being in "the communion-in-otherness that is male & female" - Marriage
-this mystery is seen in ALL close relationships
-plurality, relatedness & community

After the break, Mark shared a song with us ("Lies" by Stan Rogers - lyrics here), told a story about a disabled (but still a brilliant reflection of the Creator) person that inspired him, and then led us in the following exercise...

-think of a 'moment' when you felt 'fully alive'...
-think what that 'moment' means to you as a human being...
-try to finish the sentence (in light of the moment) 'I am one who...'

Those are my notes, I'd love to hear your thoughts, reflections, and more! (Mark himself often comments as well...) Comment away!

Theology for Life - Night 1

Well, a capacity crowd gathered for the first of four of the 'Theology for Life' talks. Mark shared his appreciation and excitement about what he perceived was a strong desire to gain a better hold on 'the big picture.'

The 'by-line' for the talks was this: 'Text, Soul and Culture as an integrated whole', and Mark explained this as the Scriptures (text) inviting us to take part in God's story, to have our lives (soul) shaped and reworked; and then taking our life into the world (culture) to transform it.

We watched a few videos such as this one that gave a good example of what Mark was trying to get at: namely, that we aren't saved simply just to fellowship and meet until we die and go to heaven - rather, we are to work for the transformation of humanity and culture as God's representatives.

One idea (perhaps intentionally worded in a way which may be controversial) that seemed to be at the center of the discussion was that God's project was NOT to 'make us Christian', but rather to renew humanity in and through us as the church.

Indeed, the idea of 'true humanity' was key. Humans, made in God's very image, find themselves to be most TRULY human when they know who they are in relation to the God who created them. The triune and inherently relational-within-himself God has chosen the earth as his temple and placed us - his image - in it. Thus, particularly in our creational and relational activity, we experience what it means to be a human being. Most importantly, Christ himself modeled true humanity for us.

After the break, Mark swept through most of Paul's letter to the Ephesians, highlighting Paul's view of this 'new humanity'.

Perhaps some found themselves with various questions or thoughts; small, large, simple, profound? I certainly cannot and did not cover everything here! Please do share!

Wineskins Part 3!

It's that time again!

Mark's Topic for the up-coming Wineskin Talks is...

THEOLOGY FOR LIFE.

Should be great!

Dates are March 12, 19, 26 and April 2
At BCNZ (Auckland campus)

Hope to see you there!

Be sure to RSVP by clicking the link above...

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